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Andrew Brons Announces Conference on Way Forward as BNPIDEAS Think Tank Launched



Posted by admin, on 27 July, 2011, to Andrew Brons' BNP Ideas web site // 32 Comments

Andrew Brons MEP has announced that a new party think tank BNPIDEAS will be launched at a conference to discuss the way forward for the British National Party early in September.

The conference, which will be open to all members, will be an opportunity for all to have an open and frank discussion on the position of the party and future strategies.

In addition, the new think tank, BNPIDEAS, is to be launched at that conference. This body will consist of the study groups on policy, strategy, marketing and other speciality disciplines.

It is to the latter end that the new think tank will be dedicated.

“There will be a number of points to the conference,” Mr Brons told BNPIdeas. “Firstly, we need to respond to the calls by large numbers of members who seek to resign from the party.

“Secondly, we need the input of as many sensible people as possible to help map out the future direction of the party.

"All those interested in registering their interest for the conference, and for the think tank, are urged to contact BNPIDEAS as soon as possible.

"Please include your name, contact number, address and email.

“It is vital that those who are thinking of walking away from the BNP or becoming inactive should rather register with BNPIDEAS and see what the options are before taking irrevocable decisions,” Mr Brons said.

COMMENT OF THE MONTH

John Bean says:

July 2011 

I have been doing my best to promote the Nationalist cause, on and off, since 1951. At age 84 I think people would understand if I joined those lesser mortals who want to walk away.

I will not, because of the calibre of the team that now backs Andrew Brons. This, any new party – including the irrelevance that calls itself Britain First – cannot possibly match within the next two years, which will be the deciding period of whether this nation and its people survive.

I back Andrew in pleading with existing members to retain their membership for at least the next three months. Otherwise you will regret it.

Responses to "Andrew Brons Announces Conference on Way Forward as BNPIDEAS Think Tank Launched"

FedUp says:

July 27, 2011 at 11:57 am

I doubt that following recent events and the fact that the Party has now been solidly established as the Nick Griffin Fan Club (also known as the My Way Or The Highway Party) that many people will want to hang around for even just another 4-6 weeks, myself included.

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CorshamCrusader says:

July 27, 2011 at 12:32 pm

I completely agree with you, FedUp.

The fact is Griffin has won and that is that, we need to accept this and move forward. The BNP is now a busted flush in my opinion, we should leave the crooks, perverts and thugs in that wreck of a party and set up a brand new “Ethno Nationalist” party immediately, in fact, I would have already prepared for this outcome and had everything ready to roll.

I really don’t see what a conference is going to achieve, people have already left and many more will over the coming days and weeks. I think you are just giving griffin the reasons he needs to expel everyone. We have wasted so much time already trying to oust griffn, it’s not going to happen so forget him and the BNP, time for something fresh that will appeal to the electorate.

We have plenty of time to establish a new movement before the next general election which I believe would take off in a big way. A new party would also be debt free and the idiots that surround griffin could be vetted should they try and join.

Lets not waste any more time, the time for a new party is now, lets seize the moment before it’s to late.

CC

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FedUp says:

July 27, 2011 at 1:14 pm

My feelings exactly. There are now a serious amount of people who are looking for a place to go, to leave them any length of time will simply see them vanish or take a a back seat to the cause.

We need to strike while the iron is hot and give these people a place to go. I genuinely believe that no-one would blame or criticise Mr Brons if he choose to walk away at this point and I also firmly believe that within a matter of months, any Party that he set up would be seen as serious competition.

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Richard1 says:

July 27, 2011 at 1:29 pm

CC, you are mistaken. As I see it, the point of this conference is to keep good people together, not to fracture them further. The cause is greater than any one person, and if we do not act in a unified manner, we will lose the struggle.

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Chris says:

July 27, 2011 at 2:12 pm

Totally agree CC. A conference to discuss the founding of a new party, that is what we need. The BNP name itself is just too loathed by most – members and public alike – to try to cling to. Let Griffin wallow in the filth of his own making: we should stay well clear.

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Caractacus says:

July 27, 2011 at 4:13 pm

Come on friend, we are all fed up. But for those of us who backed, and still do, Andrew; lets give him a chance to put his and our ideas forward. Already a refreshing change TO BE ASKED FOR OUR IDEAS AND INPUT, in stark contrast with the dictatorial attitude of NG!! This could and should be the new way forward and NG will not last long as a major player in Nationalist politics. Beware Searchluight and the UAF will be hoping (maybe behind the scenes even help him) to cling on as he is such a good target and hate figure, deserved of not; he is now bad news for us.

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baconsarnie says:

July 27, 2011 at 12:15 pm

Given the interesting statements here and Andrews wise words in some previous articles I’ll stick it out for a while. My membership is up for renewal in 2 months, and I plan on renewing. Have planned on giving things until Christmas to see what direction this all goes in and then take stock. In the meantime, will do what I can for the branches local to me, and nationalism as a whole.

The sad fact is that, if we all leave, those running this party – and nationalism – into the ground win. Whatever we do we cannot allow that to happen, a few months may make many things far clearer.

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dragon says:

July 27, 2011 at 12:37 pm

Are tinpot dictators and no neck henchmen allowed.

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David M says:

July 27, 2011 at 1:00 pm

A Think Tank is an excellent idea. However, I think it would be better if it were entirely independent of ‘the BNP’ and be open to non-members. It should be about the way forward for Nationalist ideas in Britain, not focussed or dependent upon ‘the BNP’ as being the vehicle for those ideas, because ‘the BNP’ itself is doomed.

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Forlorn hope says:

July 27, 2011 at 2:36 pm

Forget it.

Nationalist concept, new name,(BNP is toxic & dead in the water), new,untainted leader & team,(guess who!)

& then I will pound the streets delivering leaflets..

again.

The lefties must be laughing their a**es off.

Your call Mr.Brons, I cannot countenance the status quo,& will resign my membership after eight years……not a penny more to this lot!

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Yaabbly says:

July 27, 2011 at 2:50 pm

Thats it guys and dolls, let put off until tomorrow what we can do today. After all things could look different by Christmas as one commentor has said, then at Christmas lets give it until Summer it might look even more different by then. Infact why don’t we just for get the whole thing as the UK will look very different under an Islamic Flag. Think tanks indeed, I thought we knew what we wanted, all we need is a platform to launch from. Come on Andrew, a new party is the answer and NOW IS THE TIME!!

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Tom says:

July 27, 2011 at 3:57 pm

Without some form of new input BNP many members will fade away.

I was on the verge of moving on but Andrew is a wise and honest man so look to him for guidance.

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Caractacus says:

July 27, 2011 at 4:27 pm

A new name needed, but one that immediately resonates with patriotic British people.

Let me start of with

British Indiginous Party

Loyal British Party

Homeland Britian Party

United British Party

British Islands Peoples Party

Note, no mention of the word ‘Nationalism’. Please do not get huung up on a word, its putting out ideas and beliefs into action that really counts.

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Sigbrit says:

July 27, 2011 at 10:14 pm

The ‘Britain First’ Party have beaten all to it. That was definatley the best name. The ‘Britain Rising’, Churchill Party, the ‘Our heritage for Our children’ party, the ‘Frodo beats socialism and their Orcs’ and the ’300 Spartans’ party may be more to the point but are not vote winners.

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TruePatriot says:

July 27, 2011 at 4:46 pm

I agree with CorshamCrusader and Fedup.

It’s all well and good setting up a ThinkTank and spending days/weeks discussing positive strategies and marketing campaigns, but we know that without money, it won’t happen.

I wish that money was the only obstacle. You then have to get the current leadership team to approve of the ideas. Most of them are not open to suggestions from the rank and file.

With the party blacklisted by so many printers and suppliers, we will struggle to find anyone that will be willing to work with us.

A new paty is the only option.

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Sigbrit says:

July 27, 2011 at 10:15 pm

And with the party defaulting on it’s debts to printers and suppliers even those not blacklisting will not touch the BNP. Well done the present ‘leadership’.

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baconsarnie says:

July 27, 2011 at 4:50 pm

I too do agree on the “why put off” sentiments – but, I’m assuming there’s stuff behind scenes I do not know about. As I said, has until xmas in my eyes, then I’ll take stock and pretty much know what I’ll then decide now, but for the time being I am willing to assume that things that might revitalize our party/lead to a new party/anything that can get us out of this sh*thole we are in may well be ongoing behind the scenes.

Andrews statements on here were very strong stuff – one doubts things will stay the way they have been, crunch point has arrived.

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Roy Davies says:

July 27, 2011 at 6:04 pm

September is too late, I wish Mr Brons would say today that he will start a new party. Every day that passes activists will move on and join other parties, a large number will have no doubt waited for the leadership election only to have their hopes dashed.

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Jack Jones says:

July 27, 2011 at 6:25 pm

As much as it pains me to say it, I think the best way forward is a new party. I doubt i could bring myself to vote for a party that is run by a cheating dictator (which Nick has proved himself to be) nevermind support it/him.

I have also noticed that the word ‘BNP’ sends shivers down the spine of most ordinary Britains, even when they agree with what we say.

Anyway, my card is still in the drawer gathering dust and i’m still watching and waiting eagerly.

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rerevisionist says:

July 27, 2011 at 6:30 pm

What’s needed is a ‘FactTank’ as well as a ThinkTank – the latter I presume is to consider plans and new ideas forward. BUT without a sound factual basis the ideas will flounder. I’d hope such people as Green of Migration Watch, Rear Admiral Parry, Arthur Kemp, people competent in British economic statistics (including borrowings and the paper money swindle), educational sceptics including Mona McNee (and David Irving?), and numerous other people could be co-opted, probably informally. By now I’d imagine Brons must have contacts in the European nationalist scene who’d be happy to provide information. Unfortunately, there’s a potential huge problem of people with vested interests in e.g. things like ‘climate change’ or fluoridation or nuclear issues or what have you. But we have to cut free from Beeboid quasi-facts and comfortable lies.

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John says:

July 27, 2011 at 6:50 pm

Blimey how many years is this going on, all the lost time when we could have been building a new party, which will have to be done in the end. Even if Griffin was to give up the leadership of the party tomorrow I doubt many people would return, he’s tainted the name forever!

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Harry says:

July 27, 2011 at 7:27 pm

Andrew, I agree with the other posts we need a new party thanks to Nick the BNP seems to be in its death throws although I am prepared to wait a few months to see what if any thing materializes from your conference before I finally decide whether to resign or not.

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FURIONSTORMRAGE says:

July 27, 2011 at 9:16 pm

I too am very dissapointed with the way the nationalist cause has been destroying it’s self from the inside. We must be united or we may as well give up. There are so many small nationalist factions now that are not big enough to make any impact on current politics. One sensible option would be to create a coalition of british nationalists where all the factions can stay seperate with their own leaders but come together under one banner to campaign on issues that they all agree on for the greater good regardless of their petty differences. The other alternative is to stick with the BNP on the basis that if everyone who has recently left or been expelled takes up Nick Griffins offer to re-join and bury the hatchet then Nick Griffin would no longer have a majority of 9 in favour of him and therefore his position would become untenable.

To stay in small factions with a BNP in decline will result in the nationalist cause dissapearing almost completely. The biggest threat to our country is mass immigration and islamification so it should not matter if you are BNP, Britain First, British Resistance,or even EDL. WE MUST BE UNIFIED AND WORK TOGETHER TO ACHIEVE SUCCESS.

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George Edwards says:

July 27, 2011 at 9:40 pm

I am a British Nationalist without a political party. The BNP is dead to me. I see you as a leader so lead me Andrew. Not backwards into a party that is basically dying a slow withering death ….. Lead us forward with a new party…. What about National British Party ……..

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Stev says:

July 27, 2011 at 10:13 pm

It’s not what the party say that repels the electorate it’s the way it’s said… listen to people voicing their opinions and putting the world to rights – most agree with our common sense nationalist policies – but find us unelectable for whatever reason (and there many)… lets change that with a BNP Ideas forum

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Advocatus Diaboli says:

July 27, 2011 at 10:21 pm

It might be a better idea to launch a think tank open to members of all parties and none, rather than a BNP think tank. The sad reality is that there are now more good patriots outside that party than in it, and they’re not coming back for so long as Griffin and his cronies are in the party, let alone leading it.

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anom says:

July 27, 2011 at 10:29 pm

Folks if you are a Nationalist and dont support Griffin then a new party is the only way forward its no good joining the other small tidler parties!!!

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margaret stones says:

July 27, 2011 at 10:41 pm

my memership will be up for renewal in dec 2011 i will not be renewing it,

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SerpentSlayer says:

July 27, 2011 at 10:52 pm

Caratacus, I have a few suggestions of my own;

British Workers Party

National Labour Party

Anti-Marxist Action

The Robin Hood Party

Greater Britain Party

British Peoples Union

Just my tuppence, reckon at least some of them are useable. I suggest we hang on with the British national Party for now though. Andrew has more years in the movement than most of us. What are John Bean and Richard Edmonds doing?

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Philip Scott says:

July 27, 2011 at 10:54 pm

Forgetting party issues for a moment.

Royalists or not, Andrew Brons has been accepted as a guest recently to a garden party at Buckingham Palace.

This invite means that Andrew has been acknowledged by the ruling society. The ruling society, like it or not, is a door we must prise open. The fact of his attendance goes a long way to show the credibility of a man who has now been allowed to walk along the corridors of power. NG alas has never, and most probably will never have this opportunity.

Perhaps this is not an issue we should exploit.

My bet is that we need a leader who can walk shoulder to shoulder with the others. This invite, this acceptance of AB goes to show that one of us a least is not cast out as a leper. Tentatively this surely must be a good direction to head for. We cannot afford to walk the wilderness for ever. Time is running out.

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The Insider says:

July 27, 2011 at 10:59 pm

I think this is the correct strategy to follow. Act in haste, and repent at leisure. We have all summer and autumn to let the legal cases take their course, and things out of Griffin’s control will determine his future.

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Charles Mather says:

July 27, 2011 at 11:06 pm

My membership runs out in December and I don’t know yet whether I will renew.

I know on the street the BNP name is toxic and feel that we need a new party.

Andrew’s team could be the nucleus of that. Massive amounts of money are not needed with volunteers, BUT could Andrew remain as an MEP if he were to become the leader of a new party?

If he did lead a new party freed from those who now surround the leader I am sure many would join and in a few months we could build an effective nationalist force.

I believe the “Think Tank” is a good idea and possibly the last chance to save our movement.